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“ESPE: So, in both conversations, Lama Sangyay steers you away from thinking directly about Epifanio or your relationship (or lack thereof) and right into the nature of your mind. So masterful. CLARA: Isn't he? I hate those instructions. I do not want to do those contemplations. I want Epifanio! ESPE [laughing]: Of course you do. How does it feel to want? CLARA: "Et tu, Brute?" ESPE: Oh, sí, Señora. ¡Yo también!” — Sally Ember Ed.D.

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ESPE: So, in both conversations, Lama Sangyay steers you away from thinking directly about Epifanio or your relationship (or lack thereof) and right into the nature of your mind. So masterful. CLARA: Isn't he? I hate those instructions. I do not want to do those contemplations. I want Epifanio! ESPE [laughing]: Of course you do. How does it feel to want? CLARA: "Et tu, Brute?" ESPE: Oh, sí, Señora. ¡Yo también!
— Sally Ember Ed.D.