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“Mark 9:8, "where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched," comes directly from Isa. 66:24, but whose voice are we listening to in the preceding verses? It might be Jesus, but then again, it might be anybody. Then as now, there were plenty of fire-and-brimstone preachers. And, since the climax of the pericope is a quotation of Isaiah, implying the whole thing is something of a sermonic commentary on it, we must deny it to Jesus. Again, who remembers the great man quoting someone else?”

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Book:The Incredible Shrinking Son of Man: How Reliable is the Gospel Tradition?
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Robert M. Price
Robert M. Price

Robert M. Price is an American writer known for his critical studies of religion and mythology. His work spans a variety of fields, including biblical studies, Christian theology, and literary criticism. more

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