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“Archaeological evidence suggests that the first, most ancient cities were built around temples,” Kier commented. “And then, around such religious centers, agriculture began, then trade, finance, crafts. The state appeared even later. This indirectly confirms your words. But it’s not that simple. People are not divided into good idealists and bad atheists. Many do not believe in the God but try to behave as if He exists. Some kind of existential schizophrenia. Such self-deception can last long, until meeting a real atheist.” “A maniac always defeats a schizophrenic,” said Enrique.”

“If there is no God, then there is no freedom. And no democracy either.” Katrina paused and added, “The ancients made two serious mistakes. First, they put society above the soul of each human and moral principles. Second, they began to understand society as a biological population. The strongest and most aggressive scums inevitably ended up at the top. They decided what was ‘common good’, and everyone else was turned into slaves.”

“If some fools believe in gods, demons, magic, black cats, and other nonsense, that’s not such a big deal. It’s even useful. Let them play. But if people like you begin to believe in these fantasies, then it’s an alarming symptom. There’s nothing more dangerous for a stable society than an intelligent, active idealist who fancies whatever he might.”