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“Our vision is so limited we can hardly imagine a love that does not show itself in protection from suffering. The love of God is of a different nature altogether. It does not hate tragedy. It never denies reality. It stands in the very teeth of suffering. The love of God did not protect His own Son. The cross was the proof of His love – that He gave that Son, that He let Him go to Calvary’s cross, though “legions of angels” might have rescued Him. He will not necessarily protect us - not from anything it takes to make us like His Son. A lot of hammering and chiseling and purifying by fire will have to go into the process.”

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Elisabeth Elliot
Elisabeth Elliot

Elisabeth Elliot was an American author known for her descriptions of missionary life and profound explorations of Christian faith. Her works, including 'In This Day of Grace' and 'Passion and Purity', have influenced countless readers. more

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